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S3D Stuff :: RE: If you are going to host...

Macho John — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:16:51 GMT

Author: Macho John
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:16 am (GMT -6)

I think David raises an important issue. This is just magnified by the fact that because of firewalls and ISP issues, few players can host, so if you want to play you are often subject to the whims of hosts.

It is right to call out rude behavior as inappropriate here on this forum. Maybe we can't ban, but at least we can agree that it is BAD BEHAVIOR at best and at worst unethical. The easy solution as David suggests is for the host to advertise correctly what kind of game he is hosting. But I also like the precaution presented by Tulip, ask if it's 3P or 4P. But with very few games being hosted these days, I think many players are reluctant to make waves.

I personally can't believe the host David mentions would force him to quit rather than remake the game. Such rudenss... sometimes I can't believe how inconsiderate people are. We should most definitely hammer such folks with ghastly PAR.

S3D Stuff :: RE: If you are going to host...

RedTulip — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:18:17 GMT

Author: RedTulip
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:18 am (GMT -6)

This kind of behaviour is not the way it should be, but it is not subject for a ban as this is not cheating. This attitude will result in bad PAR.

The way to attack these situations is as follows:
A. Don't press ready until you are 100% sure that the host plays full houses by asking that explicitly (eg. "3p or 4p?"). If you don't receive a satisfying answer then leave the game.
B. Only play games with hosts you trust.
C. Use PAR and the web-site to look at the profile of the host. On the player page on the web you can see what kind of games the host prefers.
D. Host your games .
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S3D Stuff :: RE: If you are going to host...

eric witzier — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:07:35 GMT

Author: eric witzier
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:07 am (GMT -6)

hi dave, i get more complaints about this host, if we get more he wil be banned. i was i one game also and sit to the end bc i did not want a quit on my record ( 1 is enough). cu laters.
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S3D Stuff :: If you are going to host...

David Van-Cauter — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:35:14 GMT

Author: David Van-Cauter
Subject: If you are going to host...
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:35 am (GMT -6)

I've just had another bad experience with a terrible host. This has happened before and been discussed before but I just wanted to reiterate...

If you are hosting a 4p map and want to play with 3, or a 5p map with 4, etc, please make this clear, either in the game name or to people in the connector before the game starts. There are many people who want to play a map as it should be, i.e. properly balanced. If you want to mess with that, fine, but at least say so.

In order to counter this, I've made a point of not readying until all the players are present. That way, if the host wants less players, he will have to speak up. However, this is not foolproof. What has just happened (again) is this:

Player 4 joins and readies, so I ready, then the host boots the newly joined player and immediately starts the game, leaving me in a game that I did not sign up for. I then ask politely for the game to be restarted, but the host says no but you can quit. I make my argument, the host remains belligerent. So I now have three options - play a game I don't want to play, take a quit, or do nothing and get reported for passive quitting.

This is no fun, and bad hosting, plain and simple. I don't play this game to be threatened or abused, and hosts like that really get my goat. I hate being made to feel like I've done something wrong, when the host is clearly at fault. Has anyone else had similar issues? And what would be the correct ruling on the above case, if a passive quit report was posted? Can I suggest a host ban?

C3D Stuff :: RE: C3D connector? (how to join other's games)

Palomino — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:48:01 GMT

Author: Palomino
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:48 pm (GMT -6)

Tried and couldnt connect, is there another ip?

C3D Stuff :: RE: Development cycle

RyanMc — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:51:10 GMT

Author: RyanMc
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:51 am (GMT -6)

The connector script is back up and running on the alpha site for those interested.
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C3D Stuff :: RE: Development cycle

Silence — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:33:23 GMT

Author: Silence
Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:33 pm (GMT -6)

We have to be patient i think.

its not easy to program and devolop a game with a site and on with such low ppl. This is not Electronic Arts who throu out a Need for speed game every year

quality needs time
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C3D Stuff :: Development cycle

bean — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:57:06 GMT

Author: bean
Subject: Development cycle
Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:57 am (GMT -6)

S3D/C3D development has been going on for years. Has anyone noticed if the start of the cycle is likely to happen more in winter months when there's less to do outside?

I know the last development cycle started this summer but was cut short by a vacation. Unfortunately, ethereal never returned to continue developing C3D. And over 100 people signed up for alpha testing...

C3D Stuff :: RE: C3D connector? (how to join other's games)

VistaRules — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:35:02 GMT

Author: VistaRules
Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:35 am (GMT -6)

217.160.249.147 is the ip of the connector used in cities 9.2

is still working

S3D Stuff :: RE: Friend of mine cant place settlements

RedTulip — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:18:18 GMT

Author: RedTulip
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:18 pm (GMT -6)

Or downgrade the video driver to a previous version.
It helped with me.
See also other postings in this forum.
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S3D Stuff :: RE: Friend of mine cant place settlements

Unzlbunzl — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:06:02 GMT

Author: Unzlbunzl
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:06 pm (GMT -6)

try to turn off hardware acceleration in graphic apadters advanced options

S3D Stuff :: Friend of mine cant place settlements

Wazaaa — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:42:04 GMT

Author: Wazaaa
Subject: Friend of mine cant place settlements
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:42 am (GMT -6)

Hi there,

A friend of mine just created an account just now and he has a problem.
He created a ladder account, is able to join games but when it is his turn to place a village, he can see the dots, but cant click on them and make a village. He can click himself silly but nothing reacts

We have tested it on 3 servers, no succes, several reboots/restarts no succes

anyone know what the problem might be?

S3D Stuff :: RE: HOST PROBLEMS - my solution in few steps :-)

Utnapishtim — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 05:23:17 GMT

Author: Utnapishtim
Subject: Linksys router may never work
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:23 pm (GMT -6)

So I've gone through every avenue of attempting to host a game, including all the recommendations on this thread. My final step was to talk to customer support for my Linksys WRT54GS router for over an hour attempting to resolve the issue. After all of this, tech support went through all of their remedies, and then he went one step further and read the Sea3d forum, and we were unable to fix it.

When I bypass the router connecting directly to the cable modem, I am able to host with no problems.

I have a theory that Sea3d is not compatible with this Linksys router (though I'm not an expert). I've thrown in the towel.

S3D Stuff :: RE: to avoid losing the lead

Utnapishtim — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:19:39 GMT

Author: Utnapishtim
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:19 pm (GMT -6)

This thread may be degenerating into needless statements that have little to do with the original question. Thank you Macho John for the most intelligent answer to the posed question (though his was not the only one).

If this topic interests you, I'd suggest reading the initial post and then a response such as Macho John's, or making your own in order to usefully contribute to this thread. If your goal is to make a patronizing remark, instead, read this portion of my initial post:

Quote:

Does anyone have a non-flame response (of course saying this will only encourage the trolls)

S3D Stuff :: RE: -> Vista ( yeah i know shouldnt have it) and No sea3d scr

Utnapishtim — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:08:15 GMT

Author: Utnapishtim
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:08 pm (GMT -6)

I've got Vista with the same problem, but I found a work-around for my computer. I run my copy on an Asus laptop. I still can't host games, so I only join network games.

Sometimes joining a game makes the sea3d screen not show up though I'm clearly in the game. I think the above suggestion is right that it works more consistently if you close or minimize all other applications first.

So here's my work-around if the screen does not show up. I unplug the power on my laptop, drop it into minimum power performance, and voila, the screen shows up. I can then plug it back in and the screen stays.

I think that the power minimization drops everything into the background that might otherwise get in the way. Hopefully someone can root out the exact cause of the problem with my anecdote and a few others.

S3D Stuff :: RE: -> Vista ( yeah i know shouldnt have it) and No sea3d scr

Khr — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:15:38 GMT

Author: Khr
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:15 am (GMT -6)

MrPeeman wrote:

I think I got a kind of indication of the problem. Every open window has to be minimized (or better closed)before you click start game. Also whatch if the grey screen of SEA3D (on background) is showing up. IF not.. quit and retry.. then click start game.

I got the idea that the whole problem has to do with other open, active windows.

if anyone is interested i will post screenshots of the wrong and good screen,.

It seems that some programs have to be completely shut down. Minimizing works for web browser but for example Windows Media Player and MSN messenger seems to cause problems even they're minimized.

S3D Stuff :: RE: Random ban???

UltraFLEX — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:29:11 GMT

Author: UltraFLEX
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:29 am (GMT -6)

ha! no I play on lunch break sometimes though only for not-ladder at moment. there are lot of people work here like 1500 I think and lots visit from other offices. I just move to States from Europe for rest of year. so when game not work my IP# address is 198.51.251.###. If someone help fix then thanks !!

Ultraflex

C3D Stuff :: RE: Game results blended

RedTulip — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 05:10:58 GMT

Author: RedTulip
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:10 pm (GMT -6)

This is a known problem (search for it in this forum).
You game will be deleted after the nightly regen.
After the game has been deleted on the site you can repost by selecting that game in the game list of your sea3d program and by pressing the report button. After the next nightly regen all the ratings will be corrected.
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S3D Stuff :: RE: Random ban???

Ephesius — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:45:18 GMT

Author: Ephesius
Subject: Banned at work
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:45 pm (GMT -6)

It is probable that one of your work buddies messed up the whole deal for your IP address there....wait...are we addressing the real issue here?

You get to play settlers at work? Is that bundled in with your health care or something?

C3D Stuff :: Game results blended

Oluap — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:36:51 GMT

Author: Oluap
Subject: Game results blended
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:36 pm (GMT -6)

Hi,

I've just played with MYSELF and with PrinceGeorge. The results of our game are blended with the ones from another game (that had Bart Simpson, Eyes Up and HappyGilmore as players). My rating after this game is the same it was before the game, so it didn's counted... In tha game chart, our ratings are blank...

Can you fix what happened?

Thanks,

Oluap

S3D Stuff :: RE: to avoid losing the lead

eye — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:28:27 GMT

Author: eye
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:28 pm (GMT -6)

the only way not to get robbed in this game is to suck.....or not play

S3D Stuff :: RE: Random ban???

PrinceGeorge — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:41:03 GMT

Author: PrinceGeorge
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:41 pm (GMT -6)

there could be any number of reasons. Depending on which country you live in, a previous player may have gotten IP banned, and your work uses the same IP address. I suggest that you send a private message to 'Mr. Bob', one of the moderators here, to straighten this out for you. Good Luck!
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S3D Stuff :: Random ban???

UltraFLEX — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:59:41 GMT

Author: UltraFLEX
Subject: Random ban???
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:59 am (GMT -6)

Hi,

I have problem and dont' know what is wrong. I play for few weeks. 15 games or so and all OK. I try play at work and say I'm banned. I confused because I go home and then say not banned and I can play. What happened? Is it error? Why is I can play at homme but not when work?

Thanks,

UltraFLEX

S3D Stuff :: RE: HOST PROBLEMS - my solution in few steps :-)

PrinceGeorge — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 17:09:12 GMT

Author: PrinceGeorge
Subject: Finding an Open port
Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:09 am (GMT -6)

I'm having hosting issues. Simply put, im trying to run the game from behind my colleges server, i know my external and internal ip address, th eonly problem is port forwarding. I cant access the router settings, so how do i find an open port to host my Sea3D games, or how do i manually set up a port forward that doesnt require me logging in to the server configuration?

Thanks!
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S3D Stuff :: RE: Things that make you go Hmmm

Utnapishtim — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 18:23:37 GMT

Author: Utnapishtim
Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:23 pm (GMT -6)

What makes me go hmmm:

The air of negativity that exists in this community sometimes. In particular, the way that par tends to inch down by 0.1 most games unless you play with friends. And this is true even in a polite game where everyone plays well and no one is being nasty in chat.